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anybody got any idea? camp as in effeminate rather than to put up tents. camp followers are prostitutes. any connection?...

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While I consider myself a rather well-read, enlightened individual, I have never heard not understood "camp" to be used as a reference to "homosexuals" nor to their mannerisms. Dont' get me wrong, I...

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Holy campsite, Samclem! You're the fourth one to side with me on something today!!Ka-POW! Ker-PLUNK! WHAM! BIM! SWOOSH!

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Kenneth Williams, of the Carry On movies, is campness personified and given voice.`Infamy! Infamy! You`ve all got it in for me.`

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>But "Batman" was "affected and exaggerated in a theatrical manner." No more so than many things that are considered high art rather than camp. Grand opera, for instance.>The costumes were...

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When I first thought about the word, it did seem to have homosexual undertones.However, on reflection, I think this may be a recent evolution. Camp used to mean merely silly, affected, conspicuous,...

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Batman vs. Nathan Lane.I would say that Nathan Lane -- in pretty much anything he's in -- represents the sense that Dave means. Not necessarily gay (as he, in fact, is not), but overblown,...

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To me, that's "kitsch". But I won't insist on the distinction.BTW, Batman was played by Adam West; Burt Ward was Robin. I only mentioned Ward earlier because my brain refused to disgorge the star's...

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Would anyone agree that a movie like "Men In Black" would be camp? And I have to agree that Nathan Lane, especially in the Mel Brooks musical on Broadway is camp. The best example though IMHO would be...

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>Would anyone agree that a movie like "Men In Black" would be camp?Not I.

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[And what about Basil Rathbone in "Fawlty Towers". ]Considering that he died in 1967, I would consider his appearance in "Fawlty Towers" as rather camp.

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I really messed that up-John Clease was the actor in "Fawlty Towers"-yes? Wasn't his characters' name Basil? The actor, Basil Rathbone, was the original Sherlock Holmes-I think.

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Leo--I meant no offense in poking fun at your post.Indeed, Cleese was "Basil Fawlty" in the series.Rathbone was the classic "Holmes."

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Hi -as a side line to this fascinating thread - some time ago I wrote a piece for string quintet based on a Jewish melody I found particularly "camp" (actually it was a lot camper by the time I had...

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I am wondering whether anyone (in either camp) would consider V.I.P. to be "camp"?That seems to take "intentionally corny" to new levels.

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"V.I.P."?

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Groan, I just can't win. I go looking for "nother" for a whole nother thread, and up pops "camp" and Dave's beloved drag queen:www.takeourword.com/Issue027.html#camp

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Hi David :)I have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed the piece. The melody, itself, is camp -- but you really brought it out with the pizzicato.Thanks for the listen!

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HI DanGlad you like it :-) One day I'll get a live performance I hope!Kind regardsDavid W SolomonsMy website:http://www.dws.ndirect.co.uk

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"Men in Black" to me was merely sci-fi humor, not camp. Every line and action in that movie was planned. The definition I picked up at MW's site is: "something so outrageously artificial, affected,...

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As in anything directed by Ed Wood?

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